Re: Mazarunia et al

["K & D martin" <martndk@ibm.net>]

speaking of biotodoma, i am reading conflicting info.  I think it was
Baensch, or maybe axelrods atlas that said biotodoma cupido like hard water,
ph near 8.  But in my Tetra book on cichlids (big hardback one) it says
biotodoma cupido like  a ph of less than 7, nearer to 5.5!!!  says that they
won't successfully breed in ph of higher than 5.5 and more than 1 degree
hardness.

Sooo, which is right?  this mattters to me, since i don't know whether to
keep them with my m. altispinosas or in a harder tank.

kym
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@bewellnet.com>
To: apisto@majordomo.pobox.com <apisto@majordomo.pobox.com>
Date: Friday, October 23, 1998 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: Mazarunia et al


:
:
:Piabinha@aol.com wrote:
:
:> In a message dated 10/22/1998 11:10:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
:> phaughian@shaw.wave.ca writes:
:>
:> > I keep these guys......I have 4 or 5 in my 230g tank, we have been
:> >  looking for them all over lately they are one of the best fish out
there
:>
:> do you mean the C. maroni (1 i or 2 ii's???)
:
:2 ii's - Cleithracara maronii
:
:> , or the Mazarunia????  Mazarunias
:> are very rare, as the others have said!!!!
:>
:> vinny wrote:
:>
:> >YOWZA! A 7-inch Keyhole?!  I wannit!
:> >Actually Keyholes are smaller than that.  Geezers occasionally get 5
maybe 6
:> inches.
:>
:> and the wise man wrote:
:>
:> >Where did you get the idea that Cleithracara maronii gets 7 inches long!
:> >Most books say anywhere between 4 and 5 inches. A 7 incher must be on
:> steroids!
:> >Regardless of size, the Keyhole Cichlids is one of the shyest, most
peaceful
:> >cichlids known.
:>
:> sorry about my mistake re: size of keyholes.  i sometimes have trouble
with
:> inches (alright, no jokes about it...), i'm still living in the metric
system
:> although i have been in the u.s. for 14 years now (grew up in brazil).
i was
:> probably thinking of B. cupido.  do they get to be 7" long?
:
:I wish the U.S. would get its act together and go metric, too (must be a
bunch of
:Francophobes running the government). Virtually everything made in the U.S.
that
:might be exported is made in metric anyway. Yes, Biotodoma cupido can reach
7" (18
:cm).
:
:> the wise man also wrote:
:>
:> >Besides, they're not really one of the more spectacular looking fish.
:>
:> but they are so cute!  brown is beautiful!
:
:Beauty is in the eye of the beholder (see photos in Mayland and Bork). Who
am I to
:criticize anyone's idea of beauty.
:
:> also, isn't there another new genus out there, Tatinsuhayo, or something
like
:> that???
:
:Yes, Tahuantinsuyoa (say that 3 time fast) is a small (to 8 cm/3-1/8 ", but
larger
:in aquariums) genus related to the genus Bujurquina. Both genera have
internal
:features that indicate that they may be more closely related to the
'Aequidens'
:rivulatus-group of the west slope Andes than the Amazonian cichlasomines.
There
:are two species, T. macantzatza and T. chipi. Both are biparental delayed
:mouthbrooders.
:
:> (sorry for being such a pest and keep asking questions about fish i don't
even
:> keep),
:
:How else does one learn!
:
:> tsuh yang chen, nyc (enjoying the N. anomala
:
:One of my favorites!
:
:> mommies herding the swarms of
:> little pests they are raising)
:>
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