Hi Kaycy, I hate to say it but the pictures look more like Copella natteri. Evan at a fairly early age, C. arnoldi have longer, more flowing pectoral and dorsal fins and more color in the pectoral, pelvic and anal fins. It is possible that they have been in-bred so much that this is all that is left. I hope not because the arnoldi is a truly magnificant fish. Take care. Joe. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!