My female cf. cruzi died this morning leaving me with about 30 week old fry. After the recent thread on this subject and some advise from Tsuh Yang I added the fry to the 10 that my pertensis is guarding.They are about 4 days older... She quickly herded them all together...so far so good. The male pertensis seems very irate and is displaying aggressively to her (she can handle it). I wonder if he knows something is up? I'll keep you posted Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!