Hi, Thanks for those reply to my questions about sexing gold rams and agassizii. I have 4 female and 2 male rams and this morning, I found some eggs on a slate rock with 2 rams guarding it against congo tetras, discus, pleco, and other rams. I removed the pair and the eggs in a 5 gal tank for right now. Should I artificially hatch the eggs? I am guessing that the eggs will be gone tonight. The water parameter is 86F, pH7.8, hardness 120ppm. Just in case they eat the eggs tonight, should I add another female rams to this pair? (Rams are better in trio, right?) This is amazing because I have this 6 rams not more than one week. About the Agassizii, I still not very sure what sex they are. I am pretty sure there is a dominant male because One of them is almost twice the size of the others and more colorful. I think I will try to take some good pictures of them and let you all help me decided. Thanks Ade Lau Laramie, Wyoming ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!