--IDMiamiBob@aol.com wrote: So far all of the ones I've raised. A. bitaeniata, cacatuoides, aggie"orange tail", borelli,and steindachnari. Average is nine months to maturity,as fast as seven and a half, and as late as eleven. Wow thats long! how often do you do water changes and what are your stocking levels. A.borellii and A.cacatoudies sexualy mature for me at 4 months do u have a higly inbred line? ,mine are constantly croossed back to wild stock to keep them strong. it's my experience that they sexualy mature quickly and their life span is short.and i've been breeding the species you mentioned on and off for about 10 years. ---IDMiamiBob@aol.com wrote: In the wild, they would never have that much time with one spawn. The fry > would naturally dissipate into the surrownding areas and become separated from > the brood. The aquarium is not the wild. So we must treat it diffrently at times. It has been my experience that females that have their eggs taken away are disoriented and easily beat up by their tankmates. I prefer to sit and enjoy her raising her young and giving her some time to rest and recuperate, my opinion. Do you have data to prove this or is this your assumption? This is how i do things it works just fine for me and i produce a fair share of healthy Apisto's. I have a surplus of fish so by resting my females I am also getting more blood and genetic variability into my line, because i use another female who is just waiting in line. Dont be so quick to judge how others do things we must use this list to learn from each others experiences. Dave ---IDMiamiBob@aol.com wrote: > > Dave writes: > > What species > > in particuler have you had grow slow? what age to sexual maturity? > > So far all of the ones I've raised. A. bitaeniata, cacatuoides, aggie "orange > tail", borelli,and steindachnari. Average is nine months to maturity, as fast > as seven and a half, and as late as eleven. > > > would be interested to compare notes. I know there are many variables > > to consider. what are the others in the groups experiences? By the way > > i dont pull the eggs on any of my breeders i allow mom to raise them > > for a month in 5 1/2 gallon tanks with water sprite and java moss. > > In the wild, they would never have that much time with one spawn. The fry > would naturally dissipate into the surrownding areas and become separated from > the brood. > > > this allows mother time to recoperate and feed and build up an egg > > supply. > > IMHO, the egg development happens in a matter of days, and is triggered by > proper spawning conditions. > > > avg life span is about two years for most of my dwarfs, > > probabaly due to so much breeding i'm sure. > > Not likely. More likely just because that is the average of how long they are > good for in aquariums. That is the Average, folks, I'm not sayying you > haven't had pairs that spawned for four years, because I have, too. But two > years is about how long they usually make it. > > Bob Dixon > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!