see, spelled it right this time. well, the eggs are still there, still pale ivory, and the female is still keeping anything from even getting near them. the male seems to be more guarding the outer perimeter - just outside of her range (cause i suppose shed go after him too), keeping pretty much everything over to the left 2 ft of the tank... im supposing that if they arent viable, theyll be turning white and getting eaten, so them still being there and the right colour is good. they made it through the first night - well see what things are like when i get back from work... if anyone has any hints for me at all, i thank them in advance! -joel ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!