I went through an unfortunate experience two weeks ago trying to bring fish back from Hong Kong. I was carrying eight small discus in two doubled, O2-packed bags inside a shoulder bag. I mentioned the contents of my bag to the people at the x-ray machine at the Hong Kong airport, figuring that if I warned them, it would look less like I was trying to smuggle out an endangered species. They were polite (and somwhat fascinated by the fish) and said that they'd have to inform the airline because the flight crew might want to stow the bag someplace warm or impervious to leaking water. A few minutes after I boarded the plane and settled down--United Airlines, incidentally--a flight attendant came to me and told me that I could not take live fish on the plane. I protested, saying that I've done this many times, and that fish are shipped from Hong Kong on airplanes all the time. She checked with her supervisor, and the reply was "They have to be in a box in the cargo hold. If they're in carry-on, they will die due to lack of oxygen." I explained that I knew exactly what I was doing, and that the fish were much more likely to die if they were removed from the flight. She asked if there was someone in Hong Kong who I could leave them with, and I said no. She asked me when I was returning to Hong Kong; it seems they would keep the bagged fish for me behind their counter so I could pick them up when I came back in a month. At this point I gave up and gave her my bag. I have no idea what happened to those fish. I called United when I got back to the U.S. and found that they have a rule on their books about tropical fish: all fish must be double-bagged, packed with oxygen, in a styrofoam container inside a cardboard box. Otherwise, apparently, the staff gets to keep them. The lesson here is either: (1) check with the airline to get specific rules about carrying fish; (2) don't tell anyone what you're carrying unless they ask; or (3) carry an extra bag of water without fish that you can hand over in case you're stopped. --Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!