FY, the IBM starter kit is up again on the www.surplusauction.com site. It's starting bid price is only $11 w/$7 S&H and there's only a quantity of 6. The actual URL is: http://www.surplusauction.com/wc.dll?Lots~Info~90303A-AC148939&UID=DF1 I've seen them do this before. They have a boat load in stock, but they'll auction only a few items to artificially keep demand up. Amazingly it works. I've seen items go for more than retail with this tactic. People get caught up in the bidding and just have to have one of the "last" six. If you're interested in bidding, I recommend that you set a price in your head that you're willing to spend. If the cost goes over that amount, try again tomorrow. Of course, the risk is that they will eventually run out, so it's a bit of a gamble that these are not, in fact, the last 6. Also remember that the retail value is $50. ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!