Hi, My friend had bred these fish in a small tank which housed just the pair. There was plenty of cover in the form of flowerpots and java moss. The first time they eggs disappeared, the second time success. I think the crucial thing is the water conditions. It is essential to provide very low hardness and pH (~5), this is what worked for Ian. They are not an easy fish to breed so keep trying. They are worth a tank on there own as even if they hatch and become free-swimming the other fish will eat them if they get the chance. The fry grow quite quickly but he now only has about five remaining from a small initial spawn. Ken. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!