Vern wrote: >>Are you sure about those numbers?I live about an hour drive from you and my >water is about 10ppm. hardness and ph.5.6-5.8.,it depends on the amount of >rain.My water is good for the majority of apistos.The only time I play with >it is for blackwater speices. Right on Vern, and I'm green with envy!!!!!!! Why the h*** did I end up in Toronto? G. Kadar ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!