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Re: Pertensis






>From: Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@bewellnet.com>
>Reply-To: apisto@majordomo.pobox.com
>To: apisto@majordomo.pobox.com
>Subject: Re: Pertensis
>Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:47:51 -0600
>
>
>
>Can you find out precisely where these fish were collected on the 
upper Orinoco?
>Collection data are very scarce & any info is valuable.
>

I will have do check with Roger to see if he has gotten a more 
detailed location of where they were collected. Hello Roger are you 
out there????? 

>
>I assume you mean the Mayland & Bork book published by Landbuch 
Verlag (German) or
>Verlag A.C.S. (English).
>

Oops!I stand corrected. I was at work and memory failed me.

>
>Many apistos show this feature. Is the caudal peduncle patch more of 
a band, like in
>A. sp. Orangesaum, or more oval (American football) shaped like in 
A. sp.
>Vierstreifen?
>
The one that is showing abdominal stripes is about 3-4 cm, has 3 
abdominal strokes, the black patch is more banded than oval. The 
Dorsal has small sawtooth edges and now the caudal fin is looking 
like a bilobated with small extended filaments on top and bottom. On 
the face there are lots of blue speckles, preorbital and suborbital 
stripes and a black spot on the bottom lip/jaw. The lip/jaw spot 
looks just like my A. broadband. There are also two very small fish 
that are showing remarkable resemblance to small female A. 
broadbands.I guess this rules out pertensis. The one large female 
that I spoke of earlier is a twin to the Mayland & Bork picture found 
on page 124, in body shape and head shape, but definitely not in body 
color.
 
>
>Actually they don't have "fused fins" at all. A fused fin has the 
lappets (fleshy
>membrane) growing together without any saw toothed indentations in 
the fin. A.
>borellii, A. pertensis and its relatives show this best in their 
sailfins.
>
>Your fish may be young pertensis-group fish that haven't developed 
their sailfin yet
>or, hopefully, are A. sp. Orangesaum/Minima/Weißsaum. Good luck with 
them and let us
>know if you get them breeding
>
>Mike Wise
>
>>

Thanks Mike,

Tim Ellis (at home) 
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