Re: Pertensis

[Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@bewellnet.com>]

Tim Ellis wrote:

> >From: Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@bewellnet.com>
> >Reply-To: apisto@majordomo.pobox.com
> >To: apisto@majordomo.pobox.com
> >Subject: Re: Pertensis
> >Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:47:51 -0600
> >
> >
> >
> >Can you find out precisely where these fish were collected on the
> upper Orinoco?
> >Collection data are very scarce & any info is valuable.
> >
>
> I will have do check with Roger to see if he has gotten a more
> detailed location of where they were collected. Hello Roger are you
> out there?????
>
> >
> >I assume you mean the Mayland & Bork book published by Landbuch
> Verlag (German) or
> >Verlag A.C.S. (English).
> >
>
> Oops!I stand corrected. I was at work and memory failed me.
>
> >
> >Many apistos show this feature. Is the caudal peduncle patch more of
> a band, like in
> >A. sp. Orangesaum, or more oval (American football) shaped like in
> A. sp.
> >Vierstreifen?
> >
> The one that is showing abdominal stripes is about 3-4 cm, has 3
> abdominal strokes, the black patch is more banded than oval. The
> Dorsal has small sawtooth edges and now the caudal fin is looking
> like a bilobated with small extended filaments on top and bottom. On
> the face there are lots of blue speckles, preorbital and suborbital
> stripes and a black spot on the bottom lip/jaw. The lip/jaw spot
> looks just like my A. broadband. There are also two very small fish
> that are showing remarkable resemblance to small female A.
> broadbands.I guess this rules out pertensis.

Sounds like A. sp. Breitbinden (Broad-banded) or A. sp. Breitbinden (Caño
Morrocoy). The latter is a color form of A. sp. Breitbinden found around Puerto
Ayacucho, Venezuela.

> The one large female
> that I spoke of earlier is a twin to the Mayland & Bork picture found
> on page 124, in body shape and head shape, but definitely not in body
> color.

I wouldn't expect to see the intense colors shown in their book. They are more
"fish belly white", right?

>
>
> >
> >Actually they don't have "fused fins" at all. A fused fin has the
> lappets (fleshy
> >membrane) growing together without any saw toothed indentations in
> the fin. A.
> >borellii, A. pertensis and its relatives show this best in their
> sailfins.
> >
> >Your fish may be young pertensis-group fish that haven't developed
> their sailfin yet
> >or, hopefully, are A. sp. Orangesaum/Minima/Weißsaum. Good luck with
> them and let us
> >know if you get them breeding
> >
> >Mike Wise
> >
> >>
>
> Thanks Mike,
>
> Tim Ellis (at home)
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