Mike Wise wrote: BTW >studies with apistos have shown that males, if given the opportunity, will take >over the entire bottom of a 200X50 cm (80X20") tank. Charming.......I've found a home for a couple of them. Also, there are at least two females guarding broods right now. I was wondering why my 5 and 6 inch clown loaches are not making their usual appearances. I should have figured that one out. It's truly amazing how a 3/4 inch fish can intimidate 5 clown loaches and 4 corydoras from ever wandering out from the back of tank where they have their driftwood sanctuary. Thank goodness, the borelliis don't evict them from what little they seem to have preserved for themselves. G. Kadar ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!