Matt, I've seen the same thing with a few other fish, too. I've seen P. pulcher do it fairly often (too dang fertile), and I've actually seen congo tetra females do the same. It is kind of neat, but kind of sad, too. BTW, all of my messages to you have been bounced by your system, with the statement that the name server is not running and that it has timed out. Have you been experiencing reception problems with anybody else? -Myongsu. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!