S. Bunch, >>Just one question for you. It doesn't sound as though the Apistos are all >that hard to get to breed, and not too bad on raising the fry. Is this true?<< If you have a pair of mature cichlids they will at some point do the business but the trick is having a successful spawning and this comes down to water maintenance and a good varied diet. As to raising their fry I would rate them very highly as being excellent parents. >asked my LFS about breeding the Rams, and he told me that they were _very_ >difficult. Is this true? I realize you have to have the right water >parameters, but as I just purchased a RO unit a few months ago for a >saltwater reef tank, I feel that I could do that part of it.<< This depends on your breeding stock, if you are referring to Ramirezi. Altispinosa will breed successfully anywhere, community or species tank. >>Enough different to make them a challenge without devoting my entire life to them.<< I've heard that before, once you experience an Apistogramma species caring for their fry you will be hooked for life. Give them a try, you won't regret it I promise you. Helen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!