I need to know if I can use straight DI water to trigger my A.breitbinden to spawn.I have been useing peat to get the ph kh gh down.I have been useing sodium bisulfate also.With this method I can get the ph down to anywhere I want it,but I think I have to lower the hardness even more.My thinking is a couple of water changes with the DI a couple of degrees cooler might do it.Has anyone out there spawned these fish?Any pointers would be apreciated.Thanks. Vern ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!