Michael, from my own experience, Momma and Poppa will eat the kiddies when they've been free-swimming for about one week to ten days. So, in a couple of days, take the parents out. I know it's difficult to imagine that these wonderful parents, who take turns looking after their fry, would do such a thing. But they do. :( I've tried all kinds of things, like covering the front of the tank with newspaper, hoping that they ate the fry only because they were disturbed by my moving around in front of the tank, but no go. They ate them anyway. So next time around, Momma and Poppa are getting the old heave ho. G. Kadar ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!