Anxious > rookie females will eat > their first couple of spawns! Altough I respect your opinion Mike. I tend to disagree with this. It has been my experience that this is not the case. In fact it is commonly accepted that the above statement is true. However I firmly beleive egg eating is a respnse to less then ideal environmental conditions. It has been my experience that given the proper conditions even first time mothers get it right the first time. I must admit there have been exceptions. It is my opinion that bio-load levels are extremly high in an aquarium as compared to the wild. I think as aquarists we need to find answers to our problems, yes it is true that many times immature females are more likely to eat their spawns but I beleive that it is our added attention that we then focus on the tank that leads to our success though the problem lies with us and not the fish. Once again a superior environment becomes paramount. A well planted aquarium that provides security for the female with the proper water parameters and the proper microsiemens assures success even the first time. Sometimes something as simple as to much light, no floating plants, can be a key factor fish acting skiddish are a good sighn of this. Remove the other fish from the tank and leave the pair alone in the tank and I think you will have a better chance of success. Good luck === David Sanchez Casselberry, FL http://www.mindspring.com/~barbax barbax2@yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!