I have an update already. The danios had been in the tank about 2 months and been doing great, so I thought I would go ahead and put them in the 30gal. tank tonight as they wouldn't be bothered so much by a slightly higher PH like my Rams would. I netted one out and found Ich! Although I hadn't seen any sign of ich on the dead Ram this morning, I guess I have to assume the rest of the Rams and Danios have it also. Once again, should the Wardley be effective against it as it claims? Sherry ----- Original Message ----- From: S. Bunch <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: <email@example.com> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 8:54 PM Subject: Wardley Complete Remedy? (kind of long) : I just announced a few days ago that I had finally gotten the Blue Rams I : had been waiting for so long on. Now I hope someone can help me on a problem : with them. : : One of the six started showing signs of heavy breathing with swollen gills : soon after acclimation to my tank, while the others seemed fine. I couldn't : tell whether it had been already acting that way in the bag or not. I picked : them up from the LFS while they were still in their shipping bag. The sick : one lasted until this morning, almost exactly a week since I'd gotten them. : Now a few more are beginning to breathe heavily also. : : I don't believe it's my water, as Ammonia, Nitrites, Nitrates are all "0", : PH is 6.2, Temp. ~83, GH 6. They are currently in a 10gal. w/ 4 small zebra : danios. The danios are showing no signs of distress. My 30gal will be ready : for them to move into by morning. I'm currently working on bringing the PH : down and the temp. up in the 30gal. : : I asked my LFS about the possibility of gill flukes a few days before the : first one died, and he said he hadn't seen or heard of gill flukes in fish : in this area for years. Unfortunately, I can't think of anything else that : might be causing this as they show no other signs and it seems to be : contagious. : : Now, to the subject. All I have on hand for tonight is "Wardley Complete : Remedy". It claims to be good for external parasites, fungi, and bacteria. : The only listed ingredient is sodium chlorite. I says on the bottle that : this is not a salt solution, but an oxidant. Would this work for gill : flukes? Has anyone had any experience with it? : : Also, as far as salt solution goes, I've seen on deja news that it can be : helpful in taking care of parasite problems. My questions on this is how : much you should use with a soft water cichlid, and wouldn't any amount cause : the hardness and thus the PH to increase? I would think that this would put : more stress on the fish. Would non-iodized table salt work? It was : recommended for use in my pond, so I have plenty of it on hand. : : Sorry so long, : : Just another worried fishkeeper, : Sherry : ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, firstname.lastname@example.org. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email email@example.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!