Thanks for the information! I just want to get the conditions I was wondering if you use dithers in your tanks? Do you heavily plant your tanks as well? I had a pair of A. cacatuoides in a 10 gallon that contained some plant cover and a small cave, but not as heavily planted as I would have liked. It seemed that the male chased the female somewhat, and when I came back from a one day trip out of town, my female was dead. Recently, I finally found some Java Moss at a LFS and have used it in the panduro tank along with some Java fern. I hope to avoid my previous folly by providing more hiding places. Thanks again. Daryl Hudson ----- Original Message ----- From: John Wubbolt <BigJohnW@webtv.net> To: <apisto@admin.listbox.com> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 1999 8:27 PM Subject: Re: Panduro > Hello Daryl > Well how to start. I've kept and spawned Panduro's for about the past > 3 years now, back when they were sp Pandurini ( still like that name > better). I also keep Nijsenni. As you have mentioned they are > similar looking and I have found them to be similar in spawning > requirements. I've read where you had to keep Nijsenni in very acid > water (pH of 5.5) to get them to spawn. I guess I was lucky because > both species have spawned and raised fry in water with a pH of 6.8 or > closer to 7.0. My tap water varies ever so slightly depending on > season and weather activities of the recent past. It also has a > hardness of 60ppm. On the soft but not extremely soft range. I > mainly used bare bottom 10 gallon tanks with 2 flower pots in the tank > as a spawning tank. I also use Hydro Sponge filters in my tanks. For > some reason with out the current of the power filters I used to use, the > fish seem more comfortable. > Anyways, I condition my fish with baby brine shrimp everyday, tetra bits > ( now called color bits, sorry but old habits are hard to change) I also > use frozen blood worms and mosquito larvae (frozen, don't like having > the live things start flying around in the house, but live ones are > better foods) used to feed live black worms but don't use them anymore. > Either way a good varied diet with live once a day and prepared foods > once a day kept my fish in great spawning condition. I have found that > both species do better in pairs then trios or groups. Have had a few > non dominant females end up dead or darn near to it. Not much else I > could think of, oh temperature in my tanks for these guys were right > around 78 - 80F. Other then that, can't think of anything else. Hope > this helps. Both species were/are good parents. > > John Wubbolt > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!