----- Original Message ----- From: alex pastor <alexp@idirect.com> To: apisto <apisto@admin.listbox.com> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 5:35 PM Subject: Re: dying rams : I have only ever purchased one pair of rams and so far so good. They've : spawned a number of times, but of course, the eggs have never hatched. They : have proved to be tough little critters because the male is in and out of : the guppy tank, or 'penalty box' whenever the eggs have not hatched and he : harasses the female to spawn again when she's not ready. : Sounds like a great pair of rams! : However, when I purchased the fish I did so from a store where they'd spent : at least two weeks. The manager is someone who has considerable experience : in dealing with stressed and diseased fish. I won't buy anything that : hasn't been in the store for a couple of weeks. If I see something I like, : I ask how long it's been at the store and if it has only recently arrived, I : come back a week later. Expensive apistos don't usually sell very quickly, : but sometimes they are all gone. I think it's still better than bringing : home diseased fish and watching them die because I can't diagnose what's : wrong with them. Also, new arrivals are not just labeled as to puchase : price. Recently arrived shipments are kept under observation for a few days : until there is a reasonable indication that they are healthy. No sale : sticker goes on a tank where the fish are either too sick to treat or are : receiving treatment. It sounds ideal, but it isn't. There are some fish in : various tanks that I would never consider buying. Some fish arrive so : debilitated that they cannot be 'revived' under store conditions. : Yeah, I goofed by not buying from my regular LFS. There was a new LFS opened up closer to home, and although they were not quite as experienced yet, they seemed to be really trying. I was hoping to encourage them so that I could derive some of the benefits from them being so close. (One block from where I work compared to 25mi. for my regular LFS) An expensive lesson for me, I guess. : In other words, I would not buy fish, sight unseen, 'right off the truck' so : to speak. If they are locally bred, (and I also do sell fish to the store : occasionally), then at least I've got some idea as to the breeder and so : does the store. Otherwise it's a risk I'm not willing to take. Also I've : built up a customer relationship with the staff at the store, so that we : understand one another as to my expectations and their ability to provide : fish that are acceptable to me. It's just as important for them to have a : satisfied customer as it is for me to have healthy fish. Yeah, my regular LFS will hold fish for me. I had just backed off from the store because the owner, who I usually deal with, wasn't around much for a while, and the guy he had running the store for him had a real attitude. The owners back now though, and I haven't seen the other guy for a few weeks. Maybe I got lucky and the guy got fired or quit. : : Just thought I'd put in my 2 cents worth. : I'll never be so rich that I won't accept a couple more cents. :-) : G. Kadar : Sherry ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!