I agree with David, my Thomasi continually spawned without resulting fry. I then reduced the pH and only then did they have successful spawnings at pH5-5.5. Helen >Anomalochromis thomasi needs very soft acidic water so your pH may not be to their liking try it in the pH 5.5 range. > David Sanchez ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!