>I have always considered Methylene Blue too "gentle" to be effective against Ich. >With eggs and/or fry in the tank, I don't recommend any medication. Fortunately, >Rams can handle temperatures higher than those that promote Ich. I would >personally raise the temperature 2-3ºC higher, increase the air flow in the tank, >and change about 10-20% of the water daily. You should have no Ich by the end of >the week. Mike Its been my personal observation that rams seem terribly "delicate" most of the time. Would that be because I'm keeping them at temp's to far below what they prefer? I usually run my tanks around 76-80 f. And since I'm considering trying them again what would be a good temp for them? Thanks As far as the Ich goes I long ago gave up medicating it. I found that raising the temp doing daily water changes and cutting off all light to the tank for a week clears it faster and more effectively than anything else I've come across. Plus I don't have any problems with the more medication sensitive species. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!