oh, do i feel stupid or what??? i had been kicking myself for having picked 2 males when i bought the damn monsters, and they are not really dwarf, they are pretty big. i even tried giving them away. suddenly this week, they became rather jumpy and i'd see them disappear amidst a cloud of detritus when i came in the room. today i realized the detritus are actually fry. what am i going to do with all these fish??? tsuh yang chen, nyc, USA ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!