Tsug Yang. Sorry but your Thayeri won't have a chance this time either especially now that Hoplosternums have been introduced to the tank. In the past (when I didn't know any better) I witnessed H.Pectoralle eating cichlid fry. Of course when I saw this the pectoralle were quickly removed from the tank. I was told 'they're harmless cats and won't cause any harm!'. In my opinion catfish species, given the chance will eat eggs / fry. You're Thayeri are a fertile pair and if you want to have success with them house them in a more appropriate environment. Helen >i had happened to buy some new Hoplosternum cats today (i know, i > know, but i keep community tanks... i don't think of them as breeder > tanks...). one confused newcomer couldn't figure which corner to stand and > got harassed a lot by the pair. let's hope this time, they'll raise the fry > to adulthood... > tsuh yang chen, nyc, USA ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!