Thanks for the explanation, Ghazanfar. I know the wonderful selection of plants you folks have nurtured in your tanks. But Amano likes to use easily available, and fairly easy to grow plants just BECAUSE he wants to make aquascaping reachable for everyone. Also,if you look carefully at his aquascapes, he rarely uses a LOT of "unusual" plants in the same aquascape. I'm glad you were able to finally pin him down on what he wanted, and I suspect that FAN can fill most of his "wish list". I was just bringing Jay up to date on past conversations. I also wasn't suggesting that GWAPA was nickle and diming him... I just want to make sure we don't give that APPEARANCE to Amano or others, when he is coming such a long way to be with us. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ghazanfar Ghori" <GhoriG@gmail.com> To: "AGA Advisory Committee" <aga-mcm@thekrib.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [AGA-mcm] Potential issue > > We've warned the convention committee about this a number of times from past > > experience. Amano is VERY particular about the plants he uses for his > > aquascapes. I know some of the GWAPA people mentioned supplying him with > > their cuttings, but you don't pay to bring someone like Amano all the way > > from Japan, and then tell him how to do his job. Amano aquascapes > > completely dry. It would be close to impossible to do this with submersed > > foliage without a tremendous amount of damage. > > ..and this presents no problem what so ever. We thought he'd want to use > some plants that are normally not available through conventional means, > and thats why we offered up our cuttings - we were not trying to save > a dime here and there. We've got plants here within GWAPA that only a > handful of people in the US have. If he wants to use the regular > stuff - that's fine with us, and we'll gladly provide them. It's good in a way, > he'll aquascape with the bread and butter plants - it'll encourage > people - show them you do not need have access to rare plants to > scape well. > > BTW - did you guys read through the plant list? Almost sounds like > a list of plants an 'American' scape would consist of. > > FYI - we tried numerous times to obtain a list of plants that Amano would > like to use, equipment that he would need etc - all to no avail. > Finally, through > Tomoko, we were able to get a response to our queries. > > > > > I don't know all the details but why did we "allow" Amano and Jeff > > equipment > > > exchange? I could only imagine all the profits from Amano tank sale. I bet > > > huge percentage of people is ready to make a dent in their budget just to > > > get Amano setup. > > Jay - there's a business deal between Jeff and Amano. He's bringing the > equipment at his cost - it's up to him what he wants to do with it > after the demo. We cannot force him to donate those items. > > > I'd also like to point out the dichotomy between these two "issues". On the > > one hand, we're griping that someone else got Amano to ship incredibly > > heavy, expensive stuff all the way here from Japan, and on the other, we're > > nickle and diming about the plants he has asked us to provide for the demo. > > No one is 'nickle and diming' about the plants. That said, I beleive, a sizable > portion of the revenues from the auction were due to FANs generous donation > of plants last year. The plants we're getting for Amano, hopfully through FAN, > should end up in the auction and not anywhere else. > _______________________________________________ > AGA-mcm mailing list > AGA-mcm@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm > _______________________________________________ AGA-mcm mailing list AGA-mcm@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/aga-mcm