RE: [AGA Member] AB contest announcements

["Bailin Shaw" <bailin_shaw@hotmail.com>]

Petty?  I don't think I was being petty, but I was coming to the defense of 
someone who didn't deserve to be personally attacked.  I'm not sure why 
there is such a dislike of the AGA by people who post on Aquabotanic, but I 
believe that we all have the same focus, right?  That's to get more people 
interested in planted tanks.

My concern is the fact that his sight while promoting planted tank is also 
self serving by promoting his business.  As a board member of a club, we 
wrestled with what to do about allowing businesses become a member of our 
club.  It's an issue we're still debating.

I don't care that Carlos is posting it - if it's an announcement, that's 
fine.  But one post per list is more than enough in my opinion.  I 
specifically seeing it pop up more than once in multiple sites.  Although I 
don't have a problem, some others may not be as forgiving especially the 
organizations and businesses at risk.  Most of us are involved in more than 
one organization, like you mentioned Roger, and the final intent is to get 
more recognition for the hobby.  However, let's be honest, what's the true 
reason that Robert has a forum that competes with the AGA's list and the 
APD.  Have you not noticed that the original posters on the APD have all but 
disappeared?  One of the old venerable lists is now visited by only a few of 
the original posters.

Bailin
Who's going out to work in his garden.  Enjoy spring like you said.  :-)

> Could you guys *be* any more petty?
>
> If you received more than one copy of the recent announcement then it's
> because you are on more than one mailing list and/or forum.  I don't think
> that qualifies as spam.  I'm afraid that Carlos can't tailor his 
> announcement
> list to your membership list to ensure that you don't get more than one
> announcement.
>
> There is a distinction between an announcement and an advertisement.  What
> Carlos sent is an announcement.
>
> There is a life outside of AGA.  At least, I'm pretty sure there is.  I 
> would
> also have a very hard time finding hidden agendas in that statement.  I 
> don't
> see any conspiracies either.  I am conspiracy-impaired.
>
> On the other hand, most if not all of the people Robert listed as "outside
> the AGA" (including myself) are AGA members.  That's really what makes the
> issue petty.  We're a small community and lots of us have overlapping roles
> in the community.  Many of us share a common interest in not only
> participating in our hobby but in promoting it as well.
>
> I have tanks to clean, projects to build and grass that has to be mowed.
> Right now the life outside AGA that concerns me most are the dandelions
> popping up in my lawn and the lilacs that are about to bloom.
>
> Enjoy yourselves.  It's spring.
>
>
> Roger Miller
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