Re: Re: Which issue? (fwd)

[Neil Frank <nfrank@mindspring.com>]

I agree with Erik on terms for PAM. I think we will be lucky if Dave
accepts the old terms, let alone trying to change "his" magazine. I like
the idea of the sticker... it can also be something on the envelope. I also
agree with need someone who will be effective at communicating and
coordinating. Talking about this for the past 6 months? So have I, but I
guess not to each other.

Neil 

At 02:30 AM 07/30/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>On Sun, 29 Jul 2001, David VillaSunscape wrote:
>
>> I also think that we can, perhaps, go gently into the night of PAM/TAG
etc..
>> We can position it that we are merging the two publications, and perhaps
>> keep the PAM name with the logo of "The official publication of the AGA" or
>> the like. 
>
>Just to be perfectly clear, I am proposing that we approach Dave with his
>OWN original idea from 2 years back, namely that we:
>
>  * include a subscription to PAM as part of the AGA membership package,
>  * ask only for around 2 pages per issue for AGA "business"
>  * can occasionally negotiate for more space if there's a reason
>    (i.e. contest results).
>
>I do not favor making PAM "an official publication of the AGA".  I think
>that Dave & co. are doing a reasonable job at their publication, and I
>don't think we should muck with it.  I think this was the problem we had
>last time around; we were not comfortable in having someone else publish
>"our magazine."  I guess what I'm thinking is that we just accept that
>it's not "ours", provide it as a service to our members, with this little
>bit of space inside reserved for "our stuff".
>
>In the SCUBA world, lately members of Divers Alert Network (DAN) have been
>receiving copies of Skin Diver magazine.  On the cover, the only
>indication of what's up is a sticker that says "DAN Edition".  But it's
>pretty clear to me what's up -- DAN is now providing us issues of Skin
>Diver as part of our membership.  Fairly clear.
>
>Likewise, if the thing with PAM doesn't work out, it is possible to cancel
>the arrangement without killing off both.
>
>> Dave is going to have to work with someone from AGA who is
>> designated to pull our stuff together and protect our interests, and
perhaps
>> we could offer that to Mary-- I know you will all say that she would never
>> accept the position, and you are probably correct. Whatever we do, we have
>> to make it a policy decision on the part of the SC, not a personal decision
>> to axe Mary. I think we can pull that off.
>
>I realize that you and Karen are very worried about how Mary feels.
>
>I'd be careful here of trying to be nice at the sacrifice of
>purpose.  I think Mary was ineffective at coordinating things between
>other AGA folks and TAG, which is why I have been proposing we replace her
>for the past 6 months.  Perhaps a decision to go with PAM could be spun in
>such a way so as to smooth over this, but to turn this into "oh, it's just
>a new policy, nothing else; would you like to stay on doing the job of
>coordinating things between other AGA folks and PAM?"  would be the exact
>opposite of what we need.
>
>  - Erik
>
>-- 
>Erik Olson
>erik at thekrib dot com
>
>
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