> > >Once frozen blood worms wiped out my ram's tank. i dont think it was a > >bacterial infection since once I stopped still living rams immediately got I have unfortunately just had a similar "plague" experience. I added some cardinal tetras to a community tank (yes, should have quarantined)and within hours the fish started dying. Not just the added cardinals but a whole assortment of fish. The casualties include agasizi, cacatuoides, Corydoras, cardinal tetras and some ancistrus. Needless to say, I am more than a little upset. Under the microscope there are a miriad of bacteria throughout the tissues of the dead fish. Hard to tell if the bacteria are feasting on the dead fish or if they killed it. I have fed my other tanks with the same frozen bloodworms as the victim tank and no other tank is affected. My take on this is that the new fish introduced some bacteria to the tank to which the fish had little immunity. I am taking precautions to isolate the affected tank from my other tanks (no shared nets etc.). I have heard that some bacteria will secrete a toxin which may then leach out into the water and weaken otherwise healthy fish to the point of suceptibility to infection. I cannot say for sure that this has been the case but it would certainly fit the circumstances. I now am trying to decide if I should treat the tank with antibiotics or just wait some time (if so how long) before introducing some new fish. The tank is a heavily planted (hard to retrieve the dead fish) 650L (155us gal) tank so I cannot conceive of a good way to sterilize it without trashing all of the plants. There are still some fish in the tank (mostly corydoras) and I do not want to introduce any further fish to the tank without doing something about the possible disease carriers. On a side (much happier) note, I am going on vacation to Peru in april with my wife. I thought I might try to get an Amazon week squeezed in. Does anyone know of a reputable and economically priced tour operator that might have some fish collecting know-how? Thanks, Doug ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!