on 2/28/00 2:46 PM, Dan Gottsegen at dgotts@linex.com wrote: > Chad, > Could I enquire into the brand of bloodworms? Had they thawed and then > been refrozen to your knowledge? I had always assumed that at least some > brands of frozen bloodworms were safer than live foods certainly. Also, > How long did it take for signs of illness to occur? Did you stop feeding > these bad worms to the fish when the symptons first occured? I have been > following this thread with interest and with no knowledge worth > imparting to you. I am certainly sorry for your fish loss, but figure we > could probably all learn from your misfortune... good karma for you in > turn. > > Dan They were Sally's frozen blood worms. They may have at least been partially thawed during a feeding wehn I left them out while ansering a phone call that got very long (I forgot about the worms). If it was indeed the blood worms that caused the infections of the Panduros, Rams and possibly now some of my Cacatuoides - the Panduros started showing signs 12 hours after the first feeding and all were dead within 24 hours or so - the Rams started dying the fallowing day and all but 1 of 13 were dead within the another day and a half. About this time my oldest pair of Cacatuoides started to become lethargic. The Cacatuoides are still lethargic and haven't eaten in 3 days. Other Cacatuoides in the tank (1 male and 2 female) aren't showing any signs of distress. Interestingly, I also have 5 seemingly unaffected Veijitas in the same tank that previously held the now dead Rams. Yesterday and today I stripped 2 of my tanks and have bleach solution sterilized the tanks, the internal structures and, equipment, nets etc. I plan to start cycling the two tanks tomorrow and strip and sterilize 2 more tanks, rotating the remaining stock in the newley cleaned tanks (after they have been cycled). Hopefully, I will have disinfected and eliminated any further 'plague' spreading. I do have some Ram fry that I can grow out to repoulate the Ram tank. I just hope that I don't lose any more fish. The strange behavior of the Cacatuoides has me concerned. I hope they pull through. Thanks for the concern - I'll take any karma (and replacement fish) I can get at this point :-). - Chad ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!