I returned home today to find the wrigglers missing and the parents had abandoned their cave. Sheesh, what an anticlimax! Since the cave was so well protected for the past few days, I would think that the parents themselves ate the frys. This is their first spawn in their entire lives, so I'll forgive them just this once, but I'm wondering if subsequent spawn would yield the same result. Does anyone have experience with parenting cannibalism of the kribensis? I know it happens alot to the Rams. Cheers, Kenny ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!