Gary, A while ago when I was breeding "dinner plates" oops I mean Discus (nasty word Gary.) I made my own beef heart mix. My Discus, Uaru, Geophagus and many of my other species (large and small) loved this. Not all Apistogramma species ate it. In my mix I added to the ox heart flake, peas, spinach, catfish pellets, tetra prima (bits) in fact any dried fish foods I added to the mixture. It was cheap to make. If I remember correctly the Apistogramma species when fry/juveniles they ate it with relish but some not when adult. May I add when feeding this mix any uneaten food must be removed from the tank as it can and does pollute a tank very quickly. Like you Gary I also have an allergy to fozen b'worm. If I touch my eyes while handling the food they become very blood shot and itchy and can last for quite a while. I also feed all my fish frozen b'worms daily. Helen > While we are on this thread, can anyone suggest a recipe I can use as an > alternative to bloodworms? They've been my staple for years. My fish > love them, and I have never had problems fishwise, but my allergy to > bloodworms has reached the stage where when I do water changes on tanks > I feed heavily with the worms, I get unpleasant welts on my arms for > maybe 30 minutes after. I don't get this symptom in tanks I feed with > other foods, so I'm 'happy' there's a connection. > I used to make my own mushy green Malawi food, but for Apistos, I'd want > something cheap, nutritional and easy - I guess shrimp or fish based. > Ideas, anyone? > -Gary ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!