>From what I've understood... Nobody's calling anybody dumb! You'd only be dumb to spend money on products that don't work. Fine, if it works for you, use Cyclop-eeze, if it's left to float to the bottom, then use bbs etc. BTW has anyone tried breeding bbs? I'd be interested to know how you didi it and what equipment you used(another way to reduce costs:-)?) Colin ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!