Hello,, nono it's ok with the picture i don't really mind.. it just looked kinda familar (poor photographing on my part...) just ask long as you don't put a (C) of your name on it.. hehe...(even if you do it doesn't really bother me..) the reason I asked about the females is because all of these type of fish in the tanks at my LFS (acutally a couple LFS's had them) all seem like they were all males.. which makes me wonder if there any females out there.. is the fish in the 1st photo your's? if it is i'd like to know if you can get them to spawn!? thanks Raymond Wong ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!