I have had a male Cac. for over four years now. He was beat up pretty bad about three years ago, but I kept him out of pity. Even though his fins are all but gone, he's fathered two batches of fry (one just over 6mos. ago), and they turned out to be almost true tripple reds - only one double red male. Anyway, he's still kicking and has out lived all of his female counter parts. ===== J. Miller Edmonton, AB, Can. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!