I just pulled about 50 plus wigglers out of the tank of my Apisto Hongsloi II. I wouldnt have pulled them but the last 2 spawns had been eaten. My cool observation was the fact that this pair is still spawning at an Apisto Old age of almost 3 years old!! Nice big spawn too! I figured one more batch of fry from this pair would be nice, not that i have room to put them, something from the rift lake area gets booted to make room for this batch of fry!! Ohhhh I said that sinful word here, rift lake, sooo sorry!! Well back into the wood work!! Lurker mode on again lol Tundra John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://www.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!