Ok, I am getting the digital camera out and will get some pics of this guy. Atlanta, YES!! That is a decently close location. I will definitely be at that one. I just started a discus breeding operation, thanks to Judy Daniels who sold me a couple of wonderfl leopard snakeskin pairs. Due to this I am beginning RO production so apistos are definitely in the future! I have the Tetra SA Dwarf Cichlid book (linke and Staeke or some such) and from what it shows, maybe A. gossei is closest. Anyhow I will get pics, the fish has developed an orange caudal which looks sort of strange since he has no other orange. I also acquired a few A. cacatuoides from Judy, so maybe they will take a notion to spawn in the 125. Scott --- Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@bewellnet.com> wrote: > Actually, Scott, the black borders are not a > diagnostic feature of the > species, but more an indication on my form of > Rotpunkt that it is a male. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.