Thank you all for the great information. I thought I was on the right track; just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something important. Patience isn't always my long suit. Dave, you mention the age of the fish. I received them at the end of May, 01. The fish were sexable and I've had them for almost 10 months. Age shouldn't be a factor should it? And, Mike you mentioned another possibility. These fish were supposed to be of stock from the Rio Ampiyacu. Does this help with the possibility that the female is A. bitaeniata. Again, thank you all for the great feedback. I'll keep you posted. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Sanchez" <barbax2@yahoo.com> To: <apisto@listbox.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 2:15 PM Subject: Re: Agassizii breeding assistance needed > to them. One point to consider is trhe fact the > Apistos are short lived fish so if you bought them > very large it is possable they are past their prime. > Older fish takelonger to spawn then younger fish and > older fish take longer to acclimate to new tank > conditions as well. I would only suspect age at as the > last resort. Everyone has given great advice so just > take the pieces that will help you the most Good luck ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com.