Hello John My Viejita II pair are really good parents. I leave the fry in with the parent for about 3 weeks before i remove them to a grow out tank. I also feed baby brine shrimp into the tank with the parents and fry and the parents eat the bbs as well as the fry does... I dont see any noticable smaller group of fry after feeding the tank with bbs or any other foods i feed to my adults... the adults get some frozen bloodworms, tetra color bits and flake food on a varied pattern. Never the same food each day. But the tank always gets bbs each day.... I only remove the fry from the tank, actually i leave the fry and move the parents to a newly set up breeding tank. I really prefer never to have to move the fry if i dont have to.... i figure the adults will withstand the change to a new tank much better then the fry will. I move the parents when i think the fry are doing fine on their own and when i also think that maybe the parents might be getting ready to spawn again. Hope this helps you out John John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto