Hello again John I would buy cacatuoides on the east coast if I lived there...I'm from Portugal (and..by the way, don't expect to defeat us in the World Cup :). The temperature is 26ºC all the time, I feed them frozen adult artemia salina (shrimps). The nitrates are very very low, almost undetectable (I'm not sure excatly). The hardness is about 5ºdH I'm going to take some pictures now of the fishes, I would like to hear from you to decide what to do...add male? add a. agassizi (which is a species I love)? Thanks to all Alfredo ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader