From: "David Soares" <apistodave@bendcable.com>
Reply-To: apisto@listbox.com
To: <apisto@listbox.com>
Subject: Re: frequent spawning
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 10:19:42 -0700
Mike if I handled them like you did I would be working 24x7 with 260 tanks.
The smaller ones are 30 gals so the females and males both can excape. I
just leave them together but with lots of hidey holes
Soft Water Dwarf Cichlids
David Soares & Uwe Romer
14697 S Bluegrass LN
Sisters Or 97759
apistodave@bendcable.com
www.apistogrammaidiots.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Diane Wise" <apistowise@fgn.net>
To: <apisto@listbox.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: frequent spawning
> Dave,
>
> Most of my more polygamous species are bred as pairs or trios in 20
gallon
long
> (30x12x12" / 75x30x30 cm) tanks. For more 'monogamous' pairs (nijsseni-
&
most
> regani-group species) I usually use 12 gallon tanks (18x16x10" /
45x40x25cm) for
> smaller species & 15 gallon tanks (24x12x12 / 60x31x30 cm) for larger
species.
> Believe it or not the largest tank I have is a 30 gallon long (36x12x16"
/
> 90x30x40 cm). I don't consider myself a serious breeder. I'm more
interested in
> their identification & phylogenic relationships.
>
> Mike Wise
>
> David Soares wrote:
>
> > Mike what size breeding tanks?
> > Soft Water Dwarf Cichlids
> > David Soares & Uwe Romer
> > 14697 S Bluegrass LN
> > Sisters Or 97759
> > apistodave@bendcable.com
> > www.apistogrammaidiots.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike & Diane Wise" <apistowise@fgn.net>
> > To: <apisto@listbox.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 8:00 AM
> > Subject: Re: frequent spawning
> >
> > > Boleslaw,
> > >
> > > I usually keep my males & females together, but I separate them when
I
do
> > not want them to breed. I also find that it is less
> > > stressful for the male, female, and me if I separate the males of
the
more
> > aggressive species once the female has fry. I then
> > > keep the fry with her for 2 - 3 months. After 6 weeks the female
usually
> > stops guarding the juveniles & she is given a rest
> > > before I feel I want another brood. Then the juveniles are removed
from
> > the female's aquarium, and the male is reintroduced. The
> > > breeding aquarium is her territory, not the male's. She is not
continually
> > harassed and she is not forced to breed continuously.
> > > This isn't quite the natural way, but it is less stressful on
females.
I
> > consider it a variation of Ron Harlan's cypriform
> > > method of breeding Apistogramma.
> > >
> > > Mike Wise
> > >
> > > boleslawgawel@poczta.onet.pl wrote:
> > >
> > > > Mine I breed only 3 - 4 times
> > > > >each year (I separate the males from the females after spawning).
My
> > feeling is
> > > > >that spawning & raising fry causes more stress than simply eating
&
> > swimming.
> > > >
> > > > Mike,
> > > > are stresses the reason that you separate the males from the
females? Or
> > is there any other reason? Is it a common practice?
> > > > Do I understand correctly that you keep the males separated from
the
> > females and put them together for spawning only?
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Boleslaw Gawel
> > > > Warszawa-Katowice
> > > > Poland
> > > >
> > >
> >
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