Well, John, I'm exactly like Tomoko. I doubt that there are more than a couple of dozen half-way serious dwarf cichlid keepers in the entire Rocky Mountain region (from Idaho/Montana to New Mexico/Arizona. If I bred continuously, as I once did, I couldn't give away all that I produce. Stores don't want them, local hobbyists don't want them. I gave up quantity breeding after seeing too many bags of 6 sexable apistos go for 50¢ at local auctions in the past. If I wanted to move them, I would have to ship all over the country. That is not how I want to spend my time. For the past 10 years I've bred apistos just to have replacements and some extras for ACA conventions. As for only 1 year of production, my 3 year old pair of A. panduro just had a batch of fry last week. I've had 5 year old pairs of dwarf cichlids spawn. Not apistos. I'd have to check but about 4 year old pairs is about as old as I ever had that still produced fry. Mike Wise John Wubbolt wrote: > Seperating pairs to keep them from spawning... > Thats certainly not in my vocabulary.....Spawn baby spawn...... gimme > the fry.... i dont expect my breeders to live more then 2 years and i > expect about 1 good year of spawning out of them... to only want 3 or 4 > spawns a year.... i have to admit.... id be nuts to want that... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. apisto-digest@listbox.com also available. Web archives at http://lists.thekrib.com/apisto Trading at http://blox.dropship.org/mailman/listinfo/apisto_trader