I'm Randy Carey, living in the Minneapolis/St.Paul area. I've been keeping fish for eight years and have been an active member of the Minnesota Aquarium Society for six years. While some fishkeepers center their interests on one group of fish (like nothing-but-cichlids), I center mine on compatibility and similar water requirements: smaller fishes in very soft and somewhat acidic water. My fish room of 50 tanks is designed for keeping such fishes as characins, barbs/rasboras, and Apistogrammas. For instance, most of my 20 longs contain about three schools of characins and one colony of Apistogrammas. This scheme works great. When needed, the characins are removed to spawning tanks. Meanwhile, the Apisto's rear their families at the bottom of the tank. I suppose I've successfully bred and reared 15 to 20 Apistogramma species. Right now I'm "harvesting" F1 fry for A. nortberti and A. sp. brietbinden, and F2 fry for A. sp. Puerto-Narino (see Aqualog). I'm working on spawning a few species of wild-caughts: A. nijsseni, A gephra, A. bitaeniata, A. gibbiceps, and three other species I've yet to identify. I plan to bring what fry/juveniles I can to the ACA this summer. As you can see, I have been obtaining my Apisto's through wild-caught imports. Recently I got to visit an out-of-town wholesaler who let me buy through a friend. Because I have studied fin shapes and patterns of the Apisto's, I was able to recognize such things as a tank marked "bitaeniata" having an additional species mixed in. In that case I bought the remaining 16 fish and the "additional" species (11 of the 16) turned out to be the beautiful "gephra." What a catch! My recent interest in Apistos has been in identifying them--needed when you deal with wild caught stock. Too often, I've seen aquarists "pick out a name" for thier Apisto because it looks mostly like one in a picture--but they have never evaluated some of the key features which are useful in identification. Shortly, I will begin work on writing an article and on developing a master identification chart based on visual characterisics. Just in case some on this Apisto list do not belong to an aquarium society, I must ecourage them to join and get involved. Only because I have been involved and networked through mine have I been able to advance and stay motivated in this hobby during the past several years. We take trips to fish stores in nearby cities, order rare fish/plants as a group, exchange success/failure stories, bring in great speakers, etc. Like the ad says: "Just do it." -- Randy Carey ============ Reminder: Kindly quote parsimoniously when replying ============= This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@aquaria.net. To subscribe or unsubscribe or get help , send the word "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" or "help" in the body (not subject) to apisto-request@aquaria.net