PAR JANSSON wrote: > Hallo everyone. I'm new at this list and pretty new at apistos too. > > I wonder about the different colormorph of viejitas, how do they look > like? Pär, Presently, there are 3 color forms of A. viejita. Photos of all three can be found in Linke & Staeck's book Amerikanische Cichliden I - Kleine Buntbarsche (1984, 1992, & 1997 editions), and in their 1994 English translation of the 1992 German edition, American Cichlids I - Dwarf Cichlids. They all can also be found in Koslowski's book, Die Buntbarsche der Neuen Welt - Zwergcichliden. The L&S book provides very colorful photos of each species. Those in Koslowski are less colorful, but it also shows the females of each color form. Look in any of these for the differences in color forms. Link & Staeck lists specimens of A. viejita from the type locality (Puerto Gaitan, Colombia) as Color Form I (= Koslowski's Rotsaum (Red-rimmed) Apistogramma). L&S's CF II (= Koslowski's Rotflecken (Red-flecked) Apistogramma) is a species usually collected in small pools in the upper Rio Muco and Guarrojo of Colombia. Their CF III (= Koslowski's Schwarzkehl (Black-chinned) Apistogramma) comes from streams entering the Rio Manacacias between Sta. Rita and Bengale in Colombia. > Even the differences between A.mcmasteri and A.viejita? These two species are very closely related. Some apisto specialists even believe they are only one species. Nevertheless both species are considered to be valid by most ichthyologists. They can be separated by the following. Body Shape (in wild males, both species of the same size): A. macmasteri - deeper bodied A. viejita - more slender Caudal spot: A. macmasteri - tall, narrow, oval A. viejita - shorter, broader, oval to square Lateral band: A. macmasteri - broader, usually reduced to spots A. viejita - narrower, usually zigzag-like Lips: A. macmasteri - usually pale and the same color as the snout A. viejita - usually very dark indigo blue I hope this helps. Mike Wise > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!