Avatar wrote: > Hello! > > I'm a apisto fan , and I live in Taiwan. Right now I'm study Zoology > in the Taiwan University. > I've about 50 tanks , about 25 sp. and I've reproduced most of them . > Right now I'm working on A. elizabethae. This is a REAL difficult one. Let us know if you succeed! > It's hard for me to find information about apisto here in my country. > The only book I can get is Linke's and Bork's (by Amazon.com). You can get the Aqualog book on apistos (Southamerican Cichlids II) from several sources in the U.S. I can send you an Apistogramma Study Group book sales price list for this book if you want. Just contact me off of the list. Two more books on dwarfs will be published soon. Keep checking the list for more information. > I have search all the library in my country and I can only find "one" > origional paper about definding new sp .I found that lots of papers > are > on Zoologica Scripta, and I can not find this Jurnal in Taiwan. > Anybody could tell me how to find the information through internet, > or anybody can copy those papers refer to apisto for me! PLEASE! I have the reference library for the Apistogramma Study Group (ASG). Actually, it is my reference library, but I do provide copies for ASG members. I have all of the original descriptions for all of the scientifically described species. I also have articles about many of the scientifically undescribed species, too. Which Zoologica Scripta article were you looking for? Kullander wrote the original descriptions for A. macmasteri, A. viejita, A. hongsloi, & A. iniridae; A. inconspicua; and A. diplotaenia in this journal. > People here in my country only now how to breed them , nobody care > how to ID them scientifically. The dealer may some times cheat us. > About a month ago , a dealer sold A. aff. juruensis as A. juruensis. > I've seen REAL A. juruensis before so I know that is a fake one , but > the ID is based on my experience , it's not so reliable . Could any > body > tell me How to ID aff. with the real one? This is probably one for Julio Melgar to answer. All I know is that Kullander is of the opinion that the fish introduced to the hobby as A. juruensis by Römer & Soares is not the same species he described under that name. A. sp. aff. juruensis has two conflicting collecting localities, one near Pucallpa, Peru and one farther north near Iquitos, Peru. As I understand it colors seem to be the main difference. > Sorry for my poor English......... > > William Wang (Taiwan) Your English is quite good (a lot better than my Mandarin (none) or German for that matter!). Welcome aboard. Mike Wise -------------------------------------------------------------------------This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!