Re: ? about A. macmasteri

[Mike & Diane Wise <apistowise@bewellnet.com>]

Kathy,

It's Koslowski who wrote the article (Beiträge zur Unterscheidung von
Apistogramma-Weibchen (Contributions to the differentiation of Apistogramma females), in
Cichliden - Festschrift zum 25jährigen Jubiläum der DCG (Cichlids - Commemorative volume of
the 25th anniversary of the DCG), 1996, p.204-217). His Group 9 he characterizes as species
that (translation) "have a caudal peduncle spot, several  flank spots of which the lateral
spot isn't especially predominant, dorsal spots, and a pectoral spot (A. macmasteri, A.
viejita, A. hinge, A. hongsloi, A. guttata, A. sp. Rio Cairo, A. sp. Rotflecken, A. sp.
Schwarzkehl, & A. sp. Rotpunkt (only some specimens)". So you see that Koslowski, like you,
recognizes that only some A. sp. Rotpunkt females have this black spot at the base of the
pectoral fin.

This was only a preliminary report. He planned on making a more extensive study on the
subject. Does anyone know if he has written anything on it recently?

Mike Wise

kathy@thekrib.com wrote:

> Mike,
>
> I thought Kaycy's female fish looked like a rotpunkt female as well.  The
> only thing she is missing is the black spot at the base of the pectoral
> fin.  I thought on Kullander's (I think it was Kullander who was doing the
> series on IDing the female apisto's) article he divided the females into a
> group with the black spot at the base of the pectoral and this was a way
> of separating rotpunkt from other groups.  Is this a variable finding?  I
> seem to have found it on most of the rotpunk/swartzsaum etc, I have seen.
> This female does not have it but she sure looks like a rotpunkt.
>
> Thanks
> Kathy
>
> On Wed, 9 Dec 1998, Mike & Diane Wise wrote:
> >
> > > I still don't know about the macmasteri though. But, the female I have
> > > on the site at:
> > > http://WWW.CALWEB.COM/users/d/djhanson/macma.htm
> > >
> > > according to the markings looks like a female rotpunkt. Does it to you?
> > > I'm looking at the female across from the male I pointed out above. 3rd
> > > down on the right on page 66.
> >
> > Yes, your "macmasteri" female is definitely a Rotpunkt female. Note that she does not
> > have any ventral stripe or patch. All macmasteri-group females show some black
> > pigmentation somewhere between the anus and the chin. Some rare female Rotpunkt
> > females will show this, too, like the one you mention in aqualog. She can easily be
> > separated from macmasteri-group females by the irregular shape of her caudal peduncal
> > spot.
>
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