John, Having judged a few shows, including at a couple of ACA Conventions, my suggestions are the following: 1. Size: Males should be large & mature, not old; no humped backs or big nuchal humps. Obese fish are a no-no. So are fish with "lumpy" bodies that aren't shaped correctly. 2. Deportment: Make sure it deports itself well in a bare tank. Judges don't grade fish very high is it huddles in a corner in its fright pattern or if they have to dig it out from behind a filter. You can train your fish to be more "outgoing" by keeping it in a bare glass tank, in a "busy" location, for several weeks (or months) before the show. Every time you feed it carry a clipboard with you. Most small cichlids are not particularly stupid. Given time they seem to associate the clipboard with food and come up to the front to be fed. When the clipboard-carrying judge sees the fish rush toward him, he can't help but be impressed. Some species seem to be more outgoing than others. Among apistos, species of the macmasteri-group and steindachner-group do well in this regard. If you have a fish that won't respond to these tactics, it's unlikely that it will show well enough to impress a judge. Try another. Believe me, the perfectly formed fish will always lose out to one not quite so good but deports well for the judge. 3. Color: - or lack of color is important. In highly colorful fish it is important that they show their colors well - no fright patterns. In less colorful fish (like pertensis- & gibbiceps-group species) their colors aren't as bright. If the judge is experienced, he won't mark down for lack of non-existent color - as long as the fish doesn't show its fright pattern. Inexperienced judges, well that's another problem. 4. Finnage: Check fins - no fraying, splits, or deformities allowed. Paired fins should be equal in length, same for caudal extensions. 5. Scales: Check scales - no loose or missing scales; no lateral line erosion (same for eyes, obviously, but I've seen fish with missing eyes in shows. They are usually next to impossible to get to turn around.) 6. Mouth: Check mouth - should be symmetrical and not downturned on most species. 7. Gill covers: Check operculum - no missing or deformed gill covers. 8. Judges: Check the judge(s) - if you know their experience and likes and dislikes, you can adjust your entries to their preferences. If you have an experienced d.c. hobbyist judging, he may have a preference for certain species (maybe he hates domestic color strains or actually hates 'ugly' (non colorful) apistos, or can't stand seeing commonly available fish but goes nuts over rare or new species). Judges with no experience or interest in dwarfs (all too common in shows) will often pick the most colorful fish regardless of its less colorful competitors qualities. (Pick a group of fish that you are not particular knowledgeable about or interested in. Then ask yourself how do you judge such fish without additional information?) The ideal judge is one who is experienced with the species he's judging and experienced in judging fish in general. This type of judge is usually the most fair. He is also very rare in the cichlid hobby. Maybe we need training sessions for judges like those put on by the IBC (International Betta Congress). Of the 8 factors, this last one is probably the most important - and least utilized. My personal experience has shown me that apistos aren't the best show fish among dwarfs, but with some time and effort can easily compete with other dwarfs. Among Neotropical dwarf cichlids Dicrossus filamentosus and Rams do especially well. Checkerboards seem almost fearless (actually, dumb as posts) and stay more in the middle height of a tank (easy to judge). They don't lose a lot of color either and the lyre tail is very impressive on such a slender fish. Rams, being open water fish, seem to be less shy, too and their color tends to stay put. John Wubbolt wrote: > Hello All > With the upcoming Ohio Cichlid Associations Cichlid Extravaganza, I was > wondering what or if any special things I should look for when deciding > whether a fish is show quality or not. I have some nice males that I > think are fine looking specimens and was thinking of entering them in > this show, but was looking for some pointers that might help me decide > what are things that judges look for in the Dwarf Cichlid Classes. > Any help here would be appreciated. > > John > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!