John, I agree with Helen, first try getting rid of the cardinals, I have had those guys snatch up fry. Kathy On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, Helen Burns wrote: > John, > Sorry you are having this problem as I found that McMasteri to be excellent > parents. Capable of rearing three broods in the tank at the same time > without problems from either male or female, perhaps I have been lucky. I > read with great interest your posting and it is the last sentence that > bothers me >They have eight baby cardinals for dithers< Oh dear, I'd get > those out of the tank even although you say they are babies! No doubt > others on the list will advice you differently. > Helen > > > Any advice on how to deal with a mcmasteri pair in which the female (I'm > > presuming) eats the new fry? > > > > I've had this pair for about 18 months and both are large, healthy, happy > > looking fish. They spawn very regularly - about every three weeks. The > eggs > > appear to develop all right and then start to hatch. The female seems to > be > > collecting the fry in a depression inside the brood chamber. Then next > time > > I look, nothing. I have never noticed the male swooping in - he seems a > > gentle sort on the whole. But one or other must be taking them. > > > > I've left them to it hoping eventually they would start to raise fry but > am > > now wondering whether to experiment with removing male or both. Question > is > > whether to go for removing both? Or is it likely just to be the male > that > > is the problem? And if I take out both, should I leave it until just > before > > the eggs hatch or will it make no difference? Finally, if I put the female > > back in after the fry are swimming about, would they inevitably get > snapped > > up or might she then adopt them? > > > > Other details: The pair were spawning in a community tank. Thinking it > might > > be the presence of too many other fish that were causing the problem, I > have > > had them in their own 15 gallon tank for past two spawns. Tank is well > > planted and furnished. They have eight baby cardinals for dithers, temp is > > 28 degrees C, pH is 6.5, water is RO and very soft. > > from John McCrone - Science Writer > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@listbox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!