Mike Jacobs wrote: > Marco wrote... > >I strongly recommend the original description of A. meinkeni by > >Kullander, 1980: there is a black & white picture of a preserved > >specimen, > > Great suggestion.....thanks.....where does one find these descriptions. > Libraries.........the internet??? The original description of A. meinkeni (in English) is in: Kullander, S. O. 1980. A Taxonomical Study of the Genus Apistogramma Regan, with a Revision of Brazilian and Peruvian Species (Teleostei: Percoidei: Cichlidae). Bonner Zoologische Monographien, Nr. 14. pp. 118-122. There's a revision to Haseman's 1911 description of A. pertensis in this volume, too. Try to see if your local library can find it and get it through interlibrary loan. It's not a very common publication. Probably only university libraries will have it. Apistogramma Study Group members can order a copy of the A. meinkeni description from me for about $1.00 including postage, etc. Just one of the perks of belonging to the ASG. Another note. Although the photo shows 7, maybe 8, spot rows on the tail, Kullander states that they can have up to 10 rows of spots on the tail. Again, it's not the number of rows, but their width and distribution that counts. Mike Wise p.s. Marco & Julio: Got every one of your requested papers photocopied. I'll send them later this week or early next week. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. > For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, > email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. > Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!